Talk:Claes Oldenburg

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Eraser, Binoculars, and Coltello[edit]

Afaik Typewriter Eraser, Scale X is at the Olympic Sculpture Park now, I know that the picture was taken at the National Gallery. The Olympic Sculpture Park is just opening so I will go in the next week and take pictures. Maybe we can add one of these when this article expands: Image:Chiat Day Building.jpg or Image:ChiatDay Gehry.jpg. It might be worth noting or adding a paragraph about how Claes Oldenberg, Coosje Van Bruggen, Frank Gehry and Germano Celant collaborated at the 1985 Venice Biennale on the performance Il Corso del Coltello (ref Margaret Plant. Venice: 1797-1997. Yale University Press. 2002. ISBN 0300083866 Pg. 399 ref). DVD+ R/W 02:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

claes oldenburg[edit]

is claus oldenburg and claes oldenburg the same person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.85.168 (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC) yes claus oldenburg and claes oldenburg are the same person!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.54.25 (talk) 18:48, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

If so, then there is one person who has two names.96.235.138.179 (talk) 22:49, 24 November 2017 (UTC)Vladimir Lemon

"Soft Sculpture"?[edit]

What IS a soft sculpture? I see the picture of the soft looking bath tub, but does "soft" refer to the material it's made from or how it looks? Futuremyst (talk) 19:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Both. It looks that way because it's made from pliable, saggy material. Postdlf (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see. So if you were to touch the soft bath tub, you would dent it? Or is it hardened by that time? Futuremyst (talk) 13:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

it would squish and go back to normal, it's foam-filled canvas, meaning it would be like touching a plush toy (204.77.218.70 (talk) 02:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC))

A few corrections[edit]

Hello, I'm following instructions from the Wikipedia Biography of Living Persons help page by making this entry. This is the Oldenburg van Bruggen Studio and we just made a few factual corrections to errors in the artist's Wikipedia biography, mainly to details of Oldenburg's early life and his collaborative work with Coosje van Bruggen. We didn't edit beyond that. Storebridge (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Storebridge

Thanks for disclosing that... I'll take a look at your changes. Please read our guidelines on conflicts of interest; we recommend that you try to avoid working on subjects with which you have such an interest. But as long as you can edit from a neutral point of view and only provide verifiable information, you are welcome to contribute. It would also be great if we could have a photo of Mr. Oldenburg for the article. If you have rights over an appropriate portrait that you don't mind releasing under a free license, please upload an image and add it to the article. Cheers, postdlf (talk) 19:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Will do, and I'll look into the possibility of a photo. Storebridge (talk) 21:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Storebridge

Censored images[edit]

A recent DMCA take-down notice (original) resulted in removal of the sculpture photographs hosted at Commons. The missing images are now replaced with [CENSORED] stamps, leaving the original file names as HTML comments. (originally posted at Talk:Coosje van Bruggen by Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 02:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC) ) . -- I agree with this as an appropriate response. Extended discussion here: WT:Non-free_content --Lexein (talk) 23:06, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

This suposed artist tries to block images that are unprotected in countries out of USA. His little respect for public place laws in europe says it all about him.

intellectual property[edit]

i'm including information about the recent dmca notice sent to the wmf.

IT IS RELEVANT to the subject, to know their position & actions on such things & the material is certainly WELL-SOURCED.

i've removed most of the quote marks that a particular used objected to, & if anyone wants to try rewording, then go ahead.

as for the claim by the previously-mwentioned user that the section is 'nnpov', please clarify what part of the text you feel is not objective?

my position would be that it is nnpov to EXCLUDE this information, as the only reason i can see for raising objections to it, is a desire to protect the 'image' of this artist; which clearly violates said principle.

i look forward to discussing this.

Lx 121 (talk) 05:30, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

First comment was totally not npov. To demonstrate a tendency for aggressive IP protection, you would actually have to provide facts to back this up. And by facts, I mean secondary sources that actually describe the method of IP protection as 'aggressive'. Not just a list of sources saying they protected their ip. One incident of them asking the WMF to remove content they own is not a 'tendancy'. And there are no secondary sources describing it as aggressive. So I have taken that sentence out.
Regarding the rest of the paragraph, I have no strong feelings one way or the other. It could come across as retaliatory for having to remove the pictures from commons. The counter argument being that people coming here might expect to see pictures of his work, work that is on public display in Germany, so an explanation of why Wikipedia cant show them isnt that unusual. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
if you object to the 'descriptive modifiers' i have used, i have no objection to changing them.
personaly, i would consider it "aggressive" when a sculptor's studio demands the removal of 59 images of their artist's work from an educational website, as copyright violations; including works that were lawfully photographed in their country of of origin; BUT if you prefer it could be "active", "pro-active", "strong", etc....?
& i think 59 requested removals is enough to qualify as a "tendency" (it also seems highly unlikely that this is the sole occasion on which said studio has filed a dmca; for one thing, it appears to be written on a "form" templated); but again, we could drop "demonstrated a tendency" if you can think of a reword that is better suited? "has demonstrated a strong interest in defending..."?
i take it we are not disputing the point that it is (clearly, q.e.d.) the position of this studio that photographs of their artist's works are "protected" (restricted) by U.S. copyright law, even when the work is not located in the U.S.A. & local laws allow (for example) f.o.p.?
Lx 121 (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Discussion should be happening in one place: Talk:Coosje van Bruggen, where discussion started many days ago (arbitrary place, yes, but focused nonetheless). Please don't spread discussion out everywhere. It can resemble WP:Canvassing, a mistake I've made. And there's no reason to puff up your comments with blank lines. --Lexein (talk) 10:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
with respect, the "main conversation" is not taking place @ the other article's talk page; the "main conversation" is spread all over hell & back, between several different language wikip's & commons; & i'm responding here, to the actions & discussion here. if we want to "centralize" the discussion (at least for wp/en), then everybody needs to agree on a location... Lx 121 (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
To gold diggers: Images taken in countries like England are free to use under freedom of panorama. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kim for sure (talkcontribs) 12:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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